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e3c477aa No.2026

how about you n’wa think of freedom expression like this

>>14864
这种“言论自由”根本不是应用的管理手段，而是对现象的解释。自由承担自由后果是对人与自然来说的，对有能动性的人来说没有能动性的自然不造成约束，但是对人与人的关系上不是这样。假设人和另一个人的人权差不多大（人权被社会保障），那其人权交错冲突的时候只能由社会来分辨社会自己的人权观念冲突，而不是以言论自由之

名，一切都是合理的
言论自由是政治主张而不是本体论的神学，如果你是说一切都是合理的，所以不应该禁止所有，那不是言论自由，那是混淆了黑格尔绝对精神和康德绝对命令的东方式神秘主义（把自己当上帝并且用上帝的“道德”要求自己）。这里不分析为什么会出现这种神秘主义，只说明，言论自由指的是人采样收集现实经验（自然）的自由，在于冲破

人与自然间的他人影响的隔阂而不是人与人之间互相欺骗的自由。如果指的是后者这种自由，那也就是赤果果的反社会了。所以言论自由一开始就是建立在信息传播有效性上的，当一个人的言论阻碍了信息传播有效性，但是我们又 只能 任由他洗脑，那是言论自由吗？在西方这种行为很明显叫思维控制，比如中国。这种阻碍信息传播性的自由完全是一种暴力的体现，在可以被理性处理的情况下早就被处理了，之所以处理不了就是因为无可选择，强制接受
当然很多人可以说，“是这样的，爱玩玩不玩滚”，这是自由选择，但是很明显，这种做法已经和主张言论自由没关系了，完全是“行动自由”，很能揭示这种人的“我弱时我言论自由，强时你行动自由”的一贯方针，根本就不是言论自由
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98986467 No.2027

too long and untranslated,I don't think they can understand

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e75c4057 No.2031

>>2027
ｈｔｔｐs://www.deepl.com/en/translator

That's the one I use. It seems to do a better job then others I've seen, even with English slang. That said, I mostly agree with
>>2026

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ec23aadd No.2032

bro problem is chinks don't care about truth, they only care about face.
its not CCP that causes no freedom of speech. korea japan and taiwan also has none. asian face/shame culture makes it more important to not offend anyone than to speak your mind/truth.

if CCP allowed freedom of speech then entire party would lose chinese peoples support and will be replaced by some people who won't allow freedom of speech. most people think politics the wrong way. no one rules without the support of their people.

truth is most chink people(all asians) don't care about freedom of speech or are against it. they rather see people who insult president punished than to allow freedom of speech. only japanese are a bit exception due to emperor meiji. if it werent for meiji japanese would be the same, meiji was a smart men who observed asian culture is inferior and copied western ones.


anyway its not a political problem its the problem of chinese culture. you need 2nd cultural revolution to allow free thinking and stop eating wild animals if you ask me

i like china very much btw

enjoy

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ec23aadd No.2033

>>2026
问题是中国人不在乎真相，他们只在乎面子。
亚洲的面子/羞耻文化使得不得罪人比说出你的想法/真相更重要。

如果中国共产党允许言论自由，那么整个党将失去中国人民的支持，并将被一些不允许言论自由的人所取代。大多数人的政治思维是错误的。

事实上，大多数中国人（所有的亚洲人）并不关心或反对言论自由，他们宁可看到侮辱总统的人受到惩罚也不允许言论自由，只有日本人因为明治天皇而有点例外。


总之，这不是一个政治问题，而是中国文化的问题。你需要第二次文化大革命来允许自由思想和停止吃野生动物，如果你问我的话。

我非常喜欢中国

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abd96610 No.2040

>>2033
this is well translated。is it beacase you have any konwledge of chinese？

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abd96610 No.2041

>>2031
have you ever seen a similar idea anywhere？

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f3bd483f No.2043

>>2040
it’s the same thing >>2031 mention
deepl translation
you put the English text in and see for yourself

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abd96610 No.2044

>>2043
(´ﾟДﾟ`)high tech

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7f030cb4 No.2064

>>2031
this is a pretty slick translator tbh
BO should put this translator in the sticky so more people can understand one another


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